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Top of the Pops chat transcript – 17th April 2002
Question
from Ian: Hi Neil and Chris. Really enjoyed your performance
tonight, what's it like being back at Top of the Pops?
Neil:
The first time was in 1985, and what's really nice is that
they had a thing in the 90s when they went to Elstree. Now it's
back at BBC TV Centre in Shepherds Bush, which is more convenient,
and it's where TOTP originally came from. The audience feedback
was good. We had some fans in there. My brother and his wife were
there. Friends and family!
Question
from Hans: Hello boys. You released your album on April
1st. Did you come up with the title Release because that is the
Latin word for April?
Chris:
Is it? Of course that's the reason! You studied Latin didn't you,
Neil?
Neil:
We were originally going to call the album Home, but it
was suggested that we call it Release. It feels like a release for
me.
Question
from Sarah Merrett: What do you think about the state of
the music today? Do you think there are too many "created"
bands and not enough originality about? I have always been a fan
since the early 80's and love your music.
Chris:
I love manufactured pop bands, they're fantastic. S Club Juniors
are my favourite - I don't think those kids are being exploited
at all!
Neil:
I do like Blue.
Chris:
Yeah, they're good.
Neil:
You can get good manufactured bands. The Monkees were manufactured.
Chris:
The Beatles!
Neil:
No, not really ... You don't have to buy it if you don't
want to.
Question
from Hilary Hadfield: Love the new album. Have seen the
gruelling tour, how do you prepare physically for it?
Chris:
I'm down the gym every day! I've just run the marathon!
It's also a mental thing as well, so I like to do a lot of reading.
I study Buddhism and yoga.
Neil:
No wonder you look so well Chris! I actually do nothing
to prepare for the tour, but I occasionally do yoga before the show.
I think it's good to be upside-down, get the blood to your head.
I like touring, but I don't like flying all the time.
Question
from David Elliott: Will the Release world tour
have a similar set up to the recent university tour or are you going
to go for something a bit more extravagant?
Neil:
It's not extravagant. Doing this in smaller venues - we designed
it around what we wanted to do musically, and it's not a big production.
It was designed by Ian McNeil, a famous theatre designer, so the
aesthetic is 'rough'.
Chris:
This tour is really about the music, just us and the audience. We're
not detached from the audience this time. We've reworked some of
the old songs too - not too radically.
Question
from Vespawelle Java: Hello boys, may I ask you for the
story behind the wonderful song Love is a Catastrophe?
Neil:
This came out of a thing in my personal life I was very unhappy
about. I told a friend that love is a catastrophe. When love goes
wrong, you get obsessional, and that's what the song is about. It's
quite cathartic putting it down in words. You make the record, listen
back to it, and you can leave it there. This was written almost
two years ago now. When I sing it, I find I can still feel the pain,
if you like.
Question
from David King: Will you be releasing another remix album?
How about calling it "Excuse me PLEASE it's DISCO ACTUALLY"!
Chris:
Great title! I doubt it. We've just repackaged all our previous
stuff. There's quite a lot of stuff lying around but I don't think
we will.
Neil:
We wanted to re-release the old material because the technology
has really improved, so we could make the sound quality better.
We also wanted to put out the stuff - remixes for example - that
we made at the time, and have them all in one place. It's a marketing
exercise as well, to get our stuff back in the shops.
Chris:
In the old days, the booklet was the cover in the CD packaging.
Our stuff was originally poorly packaged, but now they're gorgeous
items in cardboard sleeves, and you get two albums in one.
Question
from Alex 4D: A few people have covered your songs, Merril
Bainbridge covered Being Boring - which are your favourites?
Neil:
I like the version of Rent we did with Liza Minelli, arranged by
the person who did the music for all the David Lynch films. I felt
that was a really good arrangement. It's a very coverable song because
it's got a very simple chord change.
Question
from Emma King: What has been the best gig so far and why?
Neil:
Ever? I always remember a gig on the Performance tour in Brussels.
The show was like an opera - you had to pretend the audience weren't
there, but they were behaving like a football crowd. I really enjoyed
that gig. I remember Glastonbury two years ago. We didn't know what
it would be like but it went down really well.
Chris:
We did a concert in Rio once. The audience was so mad - the reaction
was like just having scored the winning goal at the World Cup.
Neil:
The first time we did TOTP - West End Girls - you do a
rehearsal, and when we did, the studio went really quiet, and at
the end, the studio clapped, and it was a nice feeling.
Question
from Steve Wilkinson: Hi Neil and Chris - will you ever
DJ on Radio One again like you used to?
Chris:
I'll DJ again if we're asked. Whenever we've done it we've had total
control over what records we play, so it was great - we could scout
round all the record shops. Doing the Simon Bates show for a week
was a real highlight. There's a record I heard called Just Put Your
Hand in Mine by the Space Cowboys which is really good.
Question
from Josh Isaacs: Do you feel you have developed as musicians
during your absence from the limelight?
Neil:
I don't know about the absence and the limelight bit but I think,
over the years we've developed as musicians. I feel we have over
the last few months, doing the university tour, having to play guitar.
I've been playing guitar since 12, but I was pushing myself on the
tour, doing something new. It's a good feeling. Remembering all
the chords and the whole thing, I like that. But I also feel, making
songs technically, we've improved over the years. I think we still
have the simple inspiration that we had at the start, but greater
technical knowledge. When we started we didn't always understand
what was going on in the studio, but now we do.
Question
from Trudi Topham: Was it jarring moving from more "conventional"
careers into the pop arena? What prompted the decision to leave
financial stability and head into the fickle music world?
Neil:
Chris didn't have a career! He's never worked for a living
ever!
Chris:
I've had part-time jobs!
Neil:
For me it was a funny decision. I left Smash Hits at 30
which seemed quite old. I felt it was worth a go. We got an advance
from EMI, which meant I got the same annual salary as my pitiful
one at Smash Hits.
Chris:
I had no idea how the music would be received. When we
came back from New York with our demo, I didn't play it to anyone
- I was too embarrassed!
Question
from Susan Cowan: Hello Neil and Chris. I really enjoyed
Closer to Heaven, are there any plans for another musical?
Chris:
Oh yes, we're going to write another one next year. We learnt a
lot from Closer to Heaven. It was a great experience. It's not just
me and Neil - it's the whole theatrical team, the actors as well.
It's a great team effort, and when you get it on stage, it's quite
an achievement. A long, hard process, but well worth it. We want
to do one that's more accessible to more people this time. Closer
to Heaven was never meant to be a big blockbuster like Les Mis.
It was very much an off-Broadway production, which lasted for five
months - I was surprised it lasted more than a week!
Neil:
We're also talking about a north American production too.
I was talking to someone who works in musicals, and she said she
couldn't imagine an entirely new musical with a new score being
successful, because people like familiarity. As ever in the Pet
Shop Boys we're standing outside what other people think. We think
it's possible, but we don't think of it as being commercially viable
for ten years. We just think of it as doing a new play.
Chris:
The age group we were aiming at would go to the cinema, but would
never go to the theatre. I think Closer to Heaven would make a great
film. I can imagine a Hard Day's Night type version of it.
Question
from Julian Thomas: Any more musical collaborations on
the horizon?
Neil:
No, not at the moment.
Chris:
We're not really thinking about it at the moment.
Question
from Stephen1: What's your favourite track on the latest
album, and are you worried about upsetting Eminem?
Neil:
We're not worried about upsetting Eminem. He's upset a lot of people
in his career, so I suspect he won't mind, but he probably won't
hear it! My favourite album is the last track, You Choose, but I
like every track on the album.
Question
from Anders: How do you feel when you find out that your
songs are on the internet one or two months before the album is
released?
Neil:
It's a fact of modern life. I find it kind of annoying that your
album is stolen and put on the internet. You don't have the responsibility
about releasing things anymore, you don't have the choice. If we
wanted to do that, we could do it on our own website. There's a
weird morality on the internet - people think it's okay to steal
things because it doesn't feel like stealing. Our album is something
made and financed by us. I think we should be able to decide when
we can release it. I think people should get their heads around
the fact that it's stealing. But the music business isn't really
bothered. People say, I downloaded your album, I'm going to buy
it. Okay, but it's still stealing. We think music is precious, and
has a value. If you look at our album cover, the work that's gone
into the presentation - when people download it in MP3 format ...
Chris:
People don't realise that MP3 isn't a very good format. There's
this whole myth that digital is really good quality, but analogue
is much better quality.
Neil:
The internet is a good resource, but there are no libel
laws on it - people say things that aren't true, as if they are
fact. People are intellectually lazy ...
Chris:
And the grammar's appalling!
Question
from Jeremy Kay: Have you got massive record collections?
I remember Neil saying he bought all the Bobby O records in the
early days...
Neil:
At some point in the early 90s, or even earlier than that, I got
rid of a lot of vinyl albums, but I kept my 12" singles. I've
also got a collection of 7" records from the 70s and early
80s. And I've got thousands of CDs!
Question
from Neilsblueeyes: Roughly what percentage of your fan
mail do you read (truth please!) and do you bin it immediately or
keep any of it?
Neil:
We have a system on the internet where people can ask us questions,
and we answer some of them - we can't answer them all! Fanmail requests
for autographs are passed to us, and we sign them, but we can't
respond to all our fanmail. We get sent food and things - bottles
of wine, that goes down quite well!
Question
from David Robinson: What further ambitions do you have
as a group bearing in mind everything you've achieved over the years?
Is there anything you still have a burning desire to do?
Neil:
We have a lot of ambitions, in terms of performances, records, doing
another musical.
Chris:
I don't know really. I wish I was more ambitious really. I'm lazy!
But it's the more ambitious people who seem to get further, even
if I'm not as talented. I wish I had a bigger ego because they seem
to do better as well.
Question
from Neilsblueeyes: Who is the snootiest star you've met?
Chris:
Apart from Neil?
Neil:
How dare you say that! Moby! No... Michael Stipe? Erm...
People probably expect showbizzy stars to be snooty, but music people
are a lot more snooty. Steven Spielberg told me he loved my music.
But you might find someone who won Big Brother is a lot more snooty
than Steven Spielberg.
Question
from Mellissa Marshall: Did you ever think, way back in
the 80's that your success would continue as it has done ... your
albums get better and better!!
Neil:
Thank you! We've never ever thought that far ahead. It's great to
still be doing what we're doing. We have fantastically interesting
lives, have done for a long time. What happens happens. It's great
really.
Chris:
I didn't really think about it. I never imagined success in the
first place. I've got no complaints.
Neil:
I think to be able to have ideas, write songs, have them
released and get things produced in the theatre - it's a wonderful
position to be in.
Chris:
We've managed to do this without using fame and celebrity. Sometimes
I think if we'd lived our lives in a more public way, we'd have
had more success. But we've relied on our music, rather than going
to openings and living our life as a soap opera.
Neil:
We don't look back at our records and think they're crap.
We like them all.
Chris:
I think our greatest achievement is writing songs that mean things
to ourselves and people.
TOTP
Host: Here's the Boys with a final word to everyone that's
logged on today....
Neil:
I'd like to thank all our fans around the world for the
support they give us, because it is great. We have a kind of weird
Pet Shop Boys community. It's amazing. It's all about love!
Chris:
As long as it's unrequited! The Pet Shop Boys are all about lost
love, or love that's never happened!
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