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PET
SHOP BOYS February 2002
Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe have had more than thirty Top 20 hits
and comfortably outlasted their 80s peers. Why? Josh Sims
speaks to them exclusively.
Neil
Tennant and Chris Lowe sit eating, respectively, a Frys Cream
and a Cadburys Milk Chocolate bar, rustling wrappers and licking
lips between giving forth on the state of pop. They have seen the
changes, tastes come and go. They, at least, are still here, albeit
with less hair and, perhaps unsurprisingly, more waistline now.
It has been twenty years since an architecture student from Blackpool
and a music journalist from Newcastle met in a Kings Road electronics
shop and, as the Pet Shop Boys, in 1986 launched their original
brand of Litpop insightful, provocative and often somehow
sad lyrics set to rhythmic computerised symphonics. Or Debussy
to a disco beat, as one of their songs helpfully summarises.
The
forty-something Boys are in ebullient mood. Tennant, the front man
of two, who undercuts and yearns or, depending on your sensibility,
whines irony over the music, speaks with an eloquence rare
in the pop world. Even Lowe, who created the now clichéd
Silent Man at Synthesiser pop posture and is known for his preference
for staying in the shadows, is chock full of a friendly energy usually
smothered by hat and dark glasses.
They
have finished their new album, entitled Release, and selected the
single Home and Dry, about a lovers inability
to settle until his partner is back safely after all those
dark and frantic transatlantic miles. Although both live in
London, the album was recorded in Tennants homeland of the
North-East and is different for it. I dont think wed
have made it if it had been recorded in London, says Lowe.
There are a lot more slower tracks on it and although it sounds
a cliché, its more personal. And theres no irony
whatsoever. Not unless Neils working at a very subtle level
Im not aware of.
The
album, the Pet Shop Boys eighth, will no doubt rack up impressive
sales, be well received and add to their impressive list of more
than thirty Top 20 hits to date no mean feat for a duo who
have comfortably outlasted their 80s peers. Nor has that been
all they can claim: collaborations have taken in remixing of Blur
and Bowie and the writing of career-reviving songs for Liza Minnelli
and the late Dusty Springfield. Interesting projects have included
their visually-striking theatrical tours, film work for The Crying
Game and Scandal, as well as their own disappointing movie It Couldnt
Happen Here (That doesnt count! It was nothing to do
with us! chimes in Tennant). More recently, their musical
Closer to Heaven, got a pasting from some critics; unfairly judged,
Lowe suggests, as though it was intended to be another Phantom
or draw that kind of audience. The critics havent dissuaded
them from plans to write another next year.
The
thing is that weve never worried about being cool, explains
Tennant. To me being cool is about not really engaging with
whats going on and weve always been too engaged and
too poppy to be cool. I dont think you should worry about
credibility. Popularity is another thing. Certainly the Pet Shop
Boys arent anything like as popular as they were in the late
80s. Its the nature of pop music. No one is as popular
as they were ten years ago. And when you dont sell sex its
very difficult to have longevity and mass popularity. Take Madonna.
Forty-two. Still looking good. And still selling it.
Lowe
will go further. Towards a perfected double-act, when Lowe does
speak, it is with a passion that not only underpins the music but
counters Tennants dry, wry consideration. I hate the
whole concept of credibility. Its a really negative force,
he says. Its responsible for all the crap put out by
Radio 1. Theyre obsessed with credibility and consequently
they cant play anything that is actually good for fear of
not being credible. No one can listen with their ears anymore. They
listen with thoughts of others reactions.
[ The
Pet Shop Boys remain alone with their pioneering blend of house
and hip-hop and a willingness to tackle subjects as diverse as adultery,
consumerism and the homoeroticism of trucking ]
Whether
founded on their time-tested abilities, a disregard for industry
opinion or perhaps a Northern tendency towards straight-talking,
these pop protectors have adopted outspokenness as Pet Shop Boys
policy, seemingly without harm. Indeed, through their various ventures
the Pet Shop Boys have somehow maintained commercial as well as
critical success. They have unobtrusive celebrity Tennant
occasionally gets asked for his autograph in the Kings Roads
Marks & Spencers but also a cult and often obsessive
fan base that means they could play to an audience of 3,000 just
about anywhere in the world, from San Francisco to Moscow
to Taipei, with the exception of the Caribbean, Tennant adds
cryptically.
But
where the duo have spent most of their working lives is their adopted
home of London; Tennant in Chelsea, Lowe in Highbury. It is a place
neither can imagine leaving, bar for New York, of which Lowe gets
welcome reminders when he sees the Canary Wharf development and
the bustle of which Tennant escapes by walking the square miles
quieter lanes to find himself in evensong at St Pauls. I
love just wandering around London, particularly around about five
oclock when the shops are still open and people are finishing
work. It reminds me of when I had a proper job, he adds.
Familiarity
has also thrown its problems into focus. If anything happens
its going to happen in London. Its entire infrastructure needs
a massive input of investment but no one wants to pay for it,
says Lowe, getting heated again. Everyone has a DVD player
but no one wants to pay for the trains or NHS. And no political
party is prepared to say it either. So were both thinking
of moving from London, ha ha. Thats great for a magazine that
wants to attract people to London! Go and live in Inverness! No,
London is fantastic. Really. Just mind the needles and the street
crime.
While
love may fuel the rest of the pop engine, it is just these kinds
of issues that may crop up as a pithy one-liner squeezed between
two samples. Certainly, the Pet Shop Boys remain alone with their
pioneering blend of house and hip-hop and a willingness to tackle
with wit subjects as diverse as adultery, consumerism and the homoeroticism
of trucking (one track on their new album even imagines that Eminem
is gay). This follows Tennants view that a pop song should
try and say something that has not been said before, or at least
to say something old in a new way. Sadly, few even attempt. Indeed,
the Pets apply the same critical enthusiasm to the ephemeral world
they inhabit, that of pop, as they do to the capital.
[ That
Pop Idol thing isnt pop. Theyre auditioning people to
do cabaret, people who will come on and sing You are the Wind
Beneath My Wings ]
Pure
pop still seems to be based around the idea that theres only
one kind of song you can write youre the queen
of my heart, says Tennant. But what you have now
is a lack of talent driven by hype. That Pop Idol thing isnt
pop. Theyre auditioning people to do cabaret, people who will
come on and sing You are the Wind Beneath My Wings.
Dangerously, that has come to be regarded as pop music in the last
five years. Pop music has been hijacked by showbusiness.
That
said, theres always some good music around, he adds.
And its usually by people who are really into what theyre
doing, who dont just see it as a career but as a personal
and musical exploration, as taking a risk. And weve taken
a lot of risks over the years.
The
Pet Shop Boys headline at the NME Carling 50th Anniversary Shows
at the London Astoria on February 14th. The single Home and Dry
is released in March. The new album, Release, (Parlophone) is released
on March 25.
PET
SHOP BOYS LONDON
WHATS
YOUR FAVOURITE
Club?
Neil: The End, depending on whos DJing, Heaven or talking
to friends in the Departure Lounge.
Chris: Arsenal FC.
Place
for breakfast?
Neil: I only eat breakfast at home!
Chris: At home or in a café round the corner.
Walk?
Neil: From Chelsea, where I live, into the West End, via Belgravia,
The Mall and Charing Cross Road. London is so varied and beautiful.
Chris: Back from the West End to mine in Clerkenwell.
Shop
(any kind)?
Neil: The secondhand bookshops in Cecil Court or Tower Records,
Piccadilly Circus.
Chris: Selfridges, Oxford Street.
View?
Neil: From Waterloo Bridge at night. The north side of the river,
illuminated and reflected in the Thames, looks amazing.
Chris: From my flat across London.
Place
to drink?
Neil: The Groucho Club (sorry, private members).
Chris: The pubs around Soho.
Fancy
restaurant?
Neil: St John, Clerkenwell. They claim to specialize in nose
to tail eating but I just eat the bits in between. Some of
the best food in London.
Chris: Alastair Little in Frith Street (Soho).
Place
for a cheap and cheerful bite?
Neil: The brasserie on Brewer Street, Soho. I cant remember
its name but its great for a quick lunch.
Chris: Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Cinema
or theatre?
Neil: The Curzon Soho shows the best selection of films and you
can get a good cup of coffee in their café.
Chris: Odeon Leicester Square.
Museum?
Neil: The Sir John Soane Museum, Lincolns Inn Fields. Its
the 18th-century house of an architect, filled with his collection
of paintings and sculpture. Very atmospheric. Then there is the
National Gallery and both of the Tates.
Chris: Dont go very often but the Tate Modern.
What
do you do on Sundays?
Neil: Go for a run by the river. Meet friends to see a film and
then have dinner.
Chris: Recover.
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