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INTERVIEWS
/ NEIL / CHRIS
/ PSB
The boys are
back in town
The Pet Shop
Boys have been noticeable by their absence from pop. That's because
they've been writing a musical for Andrew Lloyd Webber. But is the
West End ready for singing drug dealers?
Sheryl Garrett
Sunday May 13, 2001
The Observer
In closer to
heaven, the new musical theatre production by the Really Useful
Company in London's West End, Frances Barber plays Billie Trix,
a faded rock star who bears some resemblance to the Velvet Underground's
Nico. The show opens with her in the backroom of a club and being
called onto the stage for her big number. First, though, she leans
over and snorts a line of cocaine.
It's not what you expect from a new Andrew Lloyd Webber production,
but then Closer to Heaven is an attempt by his company to forge
a new identity for the musical in an era when the big spectaculars
such as Les Misérables and Phantom of the Opera are starting
to look distinctly near their sell-by date. Set in a London nightclub
with a drug dealer and the manager of a boy band among the central
characters, it features a sharp, contemporary script by Liverpool-born
playwright Jonathan Harvey (Babies, Beautiful Thing, Gimme Gimme
Gimme) and music by the Pet Shop Boys.
'It won't sound
like a West End musical at all,' says Chris Lowe, generally perceived
to be the silent, sulky Pet Shop Boy but tonight so excited he scarcely
lets anyone else get a word in. 'We haven't compromised at all in
the way the music is produced. We've got the computers playing,
the electronic keyboards and samplers.'
'It's very exciting,'
adds Neil Tennant, 'and unbelievably scary.'
It's 8pm on
a Friday night, and we're in the Quality Chop House in London's
Clerkenwell, eating Caesar salads followed by posh variations on
a breakfast fry-up. 'You can tell we all have hangovers,' Lowe says
cheerfully, pouring out more wine. The night before, the Pet Shop
Boys had been out with some of the cast at the fashionable club
Kabaret where, they are pleased to report, Cilla Black was on the
dancefloor 'looking fabulous'. They love this kind of absurdity:
later, Tennant is telling me about Elton John's fiftieth birthday
party, a fancy-dress event where he got to introduce 1980s pop star
Rick Astley, dressed as an astronaut, to a bemused Michael Stipe
of R.E.M.
The Pet Shop
Boys first talked of doing a musical in 1986. At one point, there
was talk of them creating it for television, and it was the BBC
drama department which first introduced them to Harvey as a possible
collaborator. He'd just written a 30-minute play about a fan of
the boy band, E17, calling it after the Pet Shop Boys single, 'West
End Girls': 'We were, of course, outraged by this.'
None the less,
they began going to see Harvey's plays, and in 1996 finally started
working with him on the project, talking about the plot and characters,
writing songs and watching films like The Sound of Music to analyse
just how it all worked. 'At the end of each song, people have changed,
or the situation has changed,' says Tennant. 'By the end of "My
Favourite Things", for instance, the governess is the pal of
the kids. Before, they all hate her. And they do that in four minutes.
And if you look at every song, that is the case.'
The basic idea
for Closer to Heaven came quickly, and the club world seemed an
ideal setting. 'Jonathan inhabits the kind of world we've inhabited,'
explains Lowe. 'He's been to clubs like Trade and Heaven, so it's
not like he's an outsider.' The plot revolves around Straight Dave,
a good-looking, ambitious young man who comes to London from Northern
Ireland 'and goes on a journey to do with his ambition and sexuality',
falling in love with both a girl and the club's Scally male drug
dealer, Mile End Lee. It's a classic love triangle, with a modern
twist: 'Even at the end of the show, we don't necessarily know whether
he's gay or straight.'
As the script
took shape, they had discussions with various people, including
the National Theatre, but it was the Really Useful Group which decided
to take things forward. I have a hazy memory of the Pet Shop Boys
once saying that their musical would show the Lloyd Webbers of this
world how it was done, but the duo has now developed amnesia on
that point. 'No, that never happened,' says Lowe, deadpan.
'That never
happened, like my review of Starlight Express for Smash Hits never
happened either,' says Tennant, who famously wrote about music before
he was making it.
In fact, it's
the Really Useful team who've done much of the teaching. They held
a workshop, three weeks of rehearsals leading to a couple of performances
last year which enabled Lowe and Tennant to pinpoint the weaknesses
in their show. When writing a play, Harvey says he can easily read
it and imagine how it will look and sound. 'But with the musical,
I've never been able to do that, because I could never really imagine
what it would be like when people stopped speaking and started to
sing.'
After that,
there were endless changes, the search for investors and a long
search for suitable actors: Mile End Lee proved particularly difficult
to cast. 'A lot of people are talking about doing musicals at the
moment,' says Tennant. 'Boy George, Robbie Williams and Bono often
talk about doing one, but it takes a lot of stamina to do something
like this, a lot of time and energy.'
For the Pet
Shop Boys, this is the point. 'After being in pop music for so long,
this is just like releasing our first record,' continues Lowe. 'It's
as exciting as making "West End Girls". We kind of know
how record companies work now, but the theatre's so different. The
director, the choreographer, the actors all ask constant questions:
"What's the context? What are you trying to say in this song?"
It's a really great collaborative process.'
Once, says Harvey,
the soundtracks to musicals like West Side Story were considered
mainstream pop. The film of Grease was probably the last musical
to slide effortlessly into the pop arena, and Closer to Heaven is
an attempt to redress that, to put different bums on the seats of
the small, 340-seat Arts Theatre. 'I hope we can appeal to a younger
audience that maybe doesn't usually go to the theatre. I'm writing
for my mates, to encourage people to get in there.'
The Pet Shop
Boys describe Jonathan Harvey as 'a comic genius' with a talent
for mimicry that has been an endless source of amusement during
their collaboration. Harvey, in turn, confesses that he's bought
every CD they've ever done. 'They're very, very clever. They've
always been quite aloof and elusive. You've never known too much
about them, so you've never got that bored with them. They've always
been a bit of a mystery.'
'Famous control
fiends' by their own description, image has always been important
to the Pet Shop Boys. When they started, they were a deliberately
faceless antidote to shiny Eighties pop. More recently, when pop
became more about beats than personality, they've hidden behind
an ever-changing array of hats, wigs and disguises. It's a delicate
balancing act, and after 15 years and 28 million album sales, we
still know very little about them at all.
'Good,' says
Lowe firmly. 'I like the fact that people don't even recognise me.
I don't want people to know anything about me personally. I've never
wanted to be a celebrity or to be famous. When we do interviews,
they're to explain what we've been doing or to promote the record.
It's not to promote ourselves. A lot of pop stars now promote themselves
more than their music. The music is like an attachment, in a way.
Is there anything we don't know about Robbie Williams? We know about
his problems, his therapy, every person he's had sex with, every
thought he's ever had. I even know now from the paper today that
he's a good golfer.'
A few weeks
before, we'd been to see Kylie Minogue play live, a camp pop extravaganza
that marked a return to form for the diminutive pop queen. As Kylie
chatted to Tennant at the after-show party, they were surrounded
by flashing cameras and I was surprised how calmly he continued
talking.
'Chris hates
being photographed,' he shrugs. 'I don't really care, because we're
not what's happening for them, so they're not going to use them.
It's not like it's Kylie and Geri. We're not newsworthy and we've
never sought to be. Our press officer occasionally phones up when
we have a record coming out and asks for a story for the tabloids.
And we occasionally try to think of one. But it's not what we're
about, really. There's definitely a way of making that work for
you now. If you're in the press all the time, the radio might play
your record. But it's not going to work for very long. Nor does
it work abroad.'
'Maybe that's
why a lot of our pop stars are only a success in England,' says
Lowe. 'Very few of the current artists mean anything outside. It's
all become very parochial.'
It's an issue
they deal with in one of the standout tracks in the musical, 'Shameless':
'We're shameless/ We will do anything/ To get our 15 minutes of
fame/ We have no integrity/ We're ready to roll/ To obtain celebrity/
We'll do anything at all.' As for the current celebrity crop's tendency
to complain about fame, Lowe has little sympathy. 'Robbie invented
all that, didn't he? Whinge, whinge, whinge... if it makes you unhappy,
give it up. Do something else.'
After the meal,
we move to Chris Lowe's flat nearby, a gorgeous modern warehouse
conversion with a clear Perspex stairway leading to the bedroom,
from which a transparent bridge takes you out on to a roof terrace
with a view across the rooftops to St Paul's. After another bottle
or so of wine, he pulls a pod out of his shiny wall to reveal a
sound system and plays some demos of the next album, due for release
next year.
It's still recognisably
the Pet Shop Boys, but after the musical they boast that there's
'not a show tune or dance track to be seen' in the new material.
One track is a kind of sequel to Eminem's glorious 'Stan', a tale
of unrequited love and passionate obsession in which the fan kills
himself after thinking he's been ignored by the rapper. In their
version, the fan gets to sleep with his hero instead. The idea is
hilarious but, of course, the Pet Shop Boys take it deeper, the
intelligent lyrics and Tennant's wistful, yearning voice combining
to make it extraordinarily moving.
Next month,
they reissue their entire back catalogue: six albums, every dance
mix and even radio jingles collected together with extensive sleeve
notes. Initially, Lowe wasn't in favour of the repackaging, but
now he sees it as a neat full stop, a chance to move in a fresh
direction, 'like shedding a skin'.
'I feel like
we're on a real roll now with songwriting,' he says. 'It seems effortless
at the moment. When you've been around as long as we have, it's
not good enough just to have OK songs; you want to produce exceptional
stuff.'
Later still,
we play the new Daft Punk album, and Lowe starts pulling out CDs
to play, enthusing like the fan he is. Once pop music was for the
young, and adults were supposed to leave such foolish things behind.
But what we have now is a generation of artists, like Madonna and
the Pet Shop Boys, who never tired of it, never stopped investigating
new trends or being excited and inspired by them. We also have a
generation of fans, like me, who have continued to buy the music
they make. Chris Lowe is 40 now; Neil Tennant is 46. Neither of
them shows the slightest sign of being bored with what they do,
nor with being content to wallow in nostalgia.
'I've never
liked retro, being in the past,' says Lowe. 'The excitement is moving
forward. I like new things.'
Closer to Heaven
previews from 15 May at the Arts Theatre, London WC2 (020 7836 3334).
Parlophone are
reissuing the Pet Shop Boys' first six studio albums ( Please, Actually,
Introspective, Behaviour, Very and Bilingual) on 4 June. Each will
include a bonus CD of material from the period in which it was recorded
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