The Boys are back
By JACQUI SWIFT
PET Shop Boys are Britain’s finest pop duo.
Since meeting in an electronics shop in 1981,
Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe have churned out 38
Top 40 singles and 14 albums.
West End Girls, It’s A Sin, Love Comes
Quickly, Actually, Very, Behaviour . . . the
list is endless.
On Fundamental, their ninth studio album, they’ve
teamed up with producer Trevor Horn for the
first time since their 1988 No4 hit Left To
My Own Devices.
The result is their best album in years.
The charming and witty pair met SFTW in their
plush record company offices for a chat about
making Fundamental, why they’ve gone political,
working with Robbie Williams and what they think
about the current state of pop.
How did you end up making an epic,
orchestral album after initially saying you
wanted it to be electronic, minimal club music?
Neil: It’s literally
just what we wrote. There are some minimal moments
— the first track Psychological, which
I think is really good, and the track Minimal
is, well, minimal.
I love this album. You spend so long writing
and making the album.
It’s a beautiful album and has all sorts
of moods - funny, sad, the whole thing.
To me, the sound of a record is so important
and it’s been really well produced by
Trevor Horn.
Chris: Trevor doesn’t
do minimal, does he?
How did you team up with Trevor after
working with some obscure dance producers on
Fundamental?
Neil: We’d written The
Sodom And Gomorrah Show and Luna Park and just
thought they were Trevor Horn tracks.
We approached him to do one track, Numb, but
a year ago we decided he’d be good for
the whole album. We wanted it to sound consistent
all the way through. Trevor is great at taking
what you’ve done and running with it.
Trevor will go to any lengths to get things
right. He’s very good at getting the feel
of the track and taking it further.
Any in particular?
Neil: The Sodom And Gomorrah
Show. We were worried because it was bit of
a standard Pet Shop Boys stomper. Now it has
the rock feel.
It is influenced by the Stuart Price remix of
The Killers’ Mr Brightside.
I was thinking about 24-hour news channels when
I wrote that song because it’s sun, sex,
sin, death and destruction presented as entertainment.
And one of the tracks on the album was
originally for Aerosmith! Tell us about that.
Neil: Chris had this bright
idea to ask Diane Warren, the American power-ballad
song- writer, to write a song. She ended up
giving us Numb which she originally gave to
Aerosmith. We thought it was really funny.
To us it was a sense of humour thing. Singing
an LA power ballad Aerosmith had rejected –
well!
How did you get David Walliams and Matt
Lucas for the video for I’m With Stupid?
Did you know before that David was an obsessive
Pet Shop Boys fan?
Neil: They had said they wanted
to do a video with us and that was the obvious
one. In 1994 we were on Top Of The Pops for
our single Liberation and there was this very
tall, funny guy in the audience making funny
remarks.
During the recording of it he was singing along
to it which they then showed on TV. This mad
tall guy who worked at the BBC was David Walliams!
Chris: The video’s great.
They are really funny and do us better than
we can.
The album covers such political issues as ID
cards and immigration. Was that intentional?
Neil: It’s good to write
about contemporary issues but in general I hate
political pop songs. For I’m With Stupid,
I was thinking about Blair and Bush but with
humour. Integral is about ID cards which we
feel strongly about but it’s done in a
fun way.
We’re like The Beatles — we always
have some serious ones, some funny ones, some
ballads and ones you can dance to. Chris likes
the more serious ones and I like the silly ones.
Chris: Neil would like Yellow
Submarine and I would like A Day In The Life.
What did you learn about your own music
from composing Battleship Potemkin?
Neil: We learned a lot about
working with an orchestra and writing something
very specific to a mood of a film. We learned
we could do something differently if we wanted
to.
Pet Shop Boys have always loved playing big,
magical events. When we played it in Newcastle
it went really well — there were 14,000
people there and it was a cold, cold night.
Chris: I think Battleship Potemkin
will be something we will be performing for
a long time because it exists as a piece and
an outside performance.
You’ve been at the top for more
than 20 years and have seen many pop trends
go by. What do you think of pop today?
Neil: We are going through
a phase where the term “pop” is
used to mean rubbish. But bands like the Arctic
Monkeys, Kaiser Chiefs, The Killers, Franz Ferdinand
make pop music. They like to think they are
rock but they are pop and all have a sense of
fun about what they do and have a great look.
It annoys me that pop gets clogged up with Pop
Idol and reality TV rubbish. Shayne Ward has
a waxwork is in Madame Tussauds – can
you believe it?!
But do you still see yourselves as pop?
Neil: Oh yes. One of the funny
things about being the Pet Shop Boys is that
we are so many different things. To some people
we are MOR, to others we are dance and some
say we are electronic, or the 80s, or a bit
showbiz, and arty.
Chris: What we are is subversive,
only a lot of people don’t get it!
You have a theory that bands have an
“imperial phase” when you effortlessly
do everything right. Do you still believe it
exists?
Neil: Yes, our imperial phase
was from It’s A Sin through to Heart.
Chris: It means you can do
what you like, usually followed by disappearing
up your backside!
Neil: Robbie Williams texted
me and said: “I’m still imperial,”
and I think he is really.
And you’re working with Robbie
on his next album?
Neil: We can’t talk about
that. But it was great fun performing with him
on the Radio 2 show we did recently.
You once said you’d like to become
backroom writer/ producers to let a younger
duo take over. Does age bother you?
Chris: I’ve not written
that idea off. Age doesn’t bother us but
I do think there is ageism.
Neil: In rock music you are
allowed to be the Rolling Stones and be 63 or
whatever they are but pop music is uncharted
territory. I’m 51 so we’re pushing
the boundaries. We’re doing it because
the young people aren’t.
What can fans look forward to next?
Neil: We’re doing load
of festivals. We’re working with Es Devlin,
the theatre designer who did the Kanye West
Tour. She’s come up with a fantastic staging
idea and we’ll have other singers and
dancers on stage. We’re doing the Tower
Of London festival and Bestival, plus a load
of European dates and then a world tour.
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